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Essentially what we got here is an old-fashioned haunting,

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knockings, banging, shadows.

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There's also rumors about some children who were murdered.

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Great stuff around the bend.

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Her skeleton was found.

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I guess this is where you had your main paranormal experience.

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As soon as I laid down, I opened my eyes,

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and I saw a guy with red eyes standing above me.

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Like he wasn't standing, he was there.

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He freaked out, ran out of bed, and started

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swinging and screaming.

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I do not like your basement.

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It makes me feel very uncomfortable.

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Like somebody's constantly watching me.

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Are you purposely trying to scare her?

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Yes.

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Get the f*** out.

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Oh my god.

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My name is Ryan Buell.

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As a child, I was plagued by the paranormal.

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So in college, I founded a group known as the Paranormal

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Research Society.

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Now my team and I help those who are haunted like I was.

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This is Paranormal State.

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Essentially what we got here is an old-fashioned haunting.

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With Crystal and Paul, you know, a young couple, like they're 27.

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They moved into the house five and a half years ago.

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They said phenomena started almost immediately.

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Knocking, banging, shadows.

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The husband, Paul, woke up and he claimed that he saw a spirit

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on top of him.

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And like he went running around the house.

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He was so scared.

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They've also seen a dark shadowy presence.

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Crystal says that when she was with one of her children

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at night time, there was a black shadowy figure watching her.

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There's also rumors about some children who were murdered

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in the nearby area.

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Where are they hearing these rumors from?

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Like neighbors?

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Neighbors, yeah.

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Let's see what we can do for the family.

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And I'd be interested in seeing what explanation we come up with.

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Hi there.

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Hi, Ryan.

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Nice to finally meet you.

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Nice to meet you.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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Director's Logs, 4.30 a.m.

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About to start walkthrough.

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Here in the kitchen, anything?

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Yeah, my husband said he came and it was dark and he flicked on the light

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and he was standing like right here and he said he saw a dark shadow

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and it just went straight down into the basement.

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When they were little, all three kids had the same experience

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with something being in the light.

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And we've changed the light fixture like four times to try to see

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if it was just a fixture.

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My daughter said something to me about there's a lady in the light

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and I used to talk to her about, you know, what's going on with the lady

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and she doesn't like me.

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How do you know that?

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Because she's mean and she couldn't really tell me anything.

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I went and she just kept saying she was mean.

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And then my son said the same thing.

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He would wake up screaming and point the light.

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And when they pointed the light, is the light on?

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No, lights off because they have a little night light.

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Okay.

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This is me and Paul's room.

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He woke up screaming in the middle of the night and I couldn't figure out

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what was going on.

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He freaked out, ran out of bed, started swinging and screaming,

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ran through the whole house.

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So I chased after him trying to figure out what's going on, what's going on.

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And then he wouldn't tell me until he came back up here and he was like,

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I don't want to scare you, but I was laying here and I opened my eyes

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and there was like somebody above me just above him.

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I guess this is where you had your main paranormal experience.

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Exactly.

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I, you know, I just closed my eyes to go to sleep and like immediately, you know,

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as soon as I laid down, I opened my eyes back up again and I saw a guy

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with a red beard and red eyes standing above me in bed, directly over me.

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Like he wasn't standing.

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He was there.

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And then what happened?

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He disappeared?

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You jumped up out of bed and he was just going.

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Why do you think this is happening?

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It just seems like sometimes, you know, with living in between the two

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cemeteries and, you know, different times of the year, the spring flows.

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I guess it's possible that the cemetery, all that water comes from the same

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source possibly.

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It just seems like there's a crosswalk almost of, you know, things floating

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through the house activity wise.

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That's what you think is going on?

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It seems like it.

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Director's log.

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It is January 8, 2011, 6.55 PM, doing primary

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interview with Crystal.

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Did anyone in this house ever play with a spear board?

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Yeah.

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Who?

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My husband and his brother.

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In this house?

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Mm-hmm.

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I actually still have it because they won't get rid of it.

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Like he brought up, please get rid of it and he said no.

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And he won't.

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Why was he using it in this house?

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I think they were just trying to goof around with it.

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Anything happened?

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I think they said that they thought it moved or something, but I don't think

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they said anything more than that.

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I really didn't get too involved.

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I let them play.

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It gets higher somewhere around here.

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Like just for like a brief second, there was a huge sort of...

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Maybe somebody turned the light on.

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Actually seems a lot higher and it's pulsing a lot more.

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OK.

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But this is where the husband sleeps.

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It is fluctuating.

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Do you guys find anything?

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The master bedroom.

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Actually closest to the father's side.

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Paul's side.

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Paul's side?

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That's interesting because he had that major night's hair.

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Right.

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No.

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We need to get ready for dead time.

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Cool.

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Cool.

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All right.

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We are about to commence dead time.

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Copy that, Ryan.

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Hey, it's 1137.

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We are alone in the house.

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Pretty dark.

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Trying to see if anything reacts to a presence.

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This is very dark.

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Does anyone want to talk to us?

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Tell us why you're here.

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We're here to talk to you or listen to you.

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Do you not want the people living here to stay here?

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Come on.

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Do something and let us know you're here.

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Is there anyone in here?

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Where's the lady?

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Where's the lady in the light?

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Why don't you do something to let me know that you're here?

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Right now laying in the master bedroom on the bed.

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Can you give us a sign that you're here?

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Can you make some sort of noise?

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I heard something across from me.

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Did you hear that?

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Yeah.

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There's someone here in this house.

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It's OK.

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You can come forward.

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You don't need to be afraid.

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We want to know your story.

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Who you are, where you come from.

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Are you happy?

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Are you in pain?

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Do you need help?

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Just let us know why you're here.

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Is this your house?

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It's just a little bit of a mess.

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Did you hear that?

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What happened?

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Jeez.

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Oh my god.

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Oh my god.

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What happened?

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I heard like a whirr.

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We have the time jotted down, Ryan,

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but just, you know, Elfie was standing still

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and don't think he came from us.

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Over.

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Can you make a noise now?

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You want to do that again?

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So let me know it was you.

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All right.

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I'm going to go ahead and wrap up dead time surgery.

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Copy that.

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Crystal seems to stay at home the most

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to take care of the kids.

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Paul's out most of the time working.

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So she has most experiences in him

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because she stays at home most of the time.

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But he seemed to have the bigger experiences

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out of everybody.

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He's seen full blown apparitions that are,

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you know, making him jump out of bed

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and run around the house screaming.

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In this case, saying he woke up and saw a man

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levitating above him could be hallucination.

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This thing screamed at him.

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Crystal never heard the scream.

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I'm having Adam, PRS psychology specialist.

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He's going to privately talk to all of them.

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We're going to try to see if we can interview some neighbors

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to see about more history or testimony about the house

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or previous owners.

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The stream has been mentioned a couple times.

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And as we know, having water run underneath your house

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or near your house sometimes is an attributing factor,

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almost like a source of energy or a current to bring

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something through your house.

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So I feel like she'll look into that as well.

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OK.

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OK, so this is the area we were talking about.

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You know, we've been hearing these rumors

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that there's a stream that goes underneath the house.

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So can you tell us anything by looking

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at it?

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Well, yeah, that wouldn't be unusual.

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What happened was a lot of the streams that originally ran

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down here ran from north to south over the hill

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towards the little towns that are down there.

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A lot of times what will happen is

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you'll see the beginning of a stream,

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then you won't see it again for several miles,

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and you'll find it's down here somewhere.

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Oh.

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So it's going underground.

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So it's probable that it actually

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could be running underneath the house?

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Oh, yeah, sure, sure.

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So do you know anything about the cemeteries

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that are on either side on the street?

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Well, there are several different cemeteries in Monroeville.

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The oldest one is up on the hill there.

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Cemetery tend to be put where there aren't a lot of houses,

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and I would imagine if they came first in some of these areas

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and then houses came around them.

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Hey, Crystal.

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Hey.

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This is my friend Adam.

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He's the guy who lives nearby.

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And so he just wants to sit down and have a chat with you,

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talk to Paul when he gets in.

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OK.

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Cool?

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Sound good?

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Yeah.

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Let's go find a place to talk.

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Awesome.

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As far as Crystal and Paul go, do you know them well?

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Are you close with them?

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Yeah.

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And she has talked about it quite a bit.

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She's told me about instances where things have happened.

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Do you believe them when they say this stuff is happening?

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Yeah, I do.

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There could be things over there.

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And what about any tragedies in the area?

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Have you ever heard of anything?

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Yeah, actually, right up around the bend,

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there was a girl that was found.

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Her skeleton was found there.

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But that's the only thing that I can remember

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from the neighborhood.

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When did that happen?

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25 years ago.

273
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Do you know how far away that was?

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It wasn't far.

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The first street up here was right around the bend

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behind the cemetery.

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I don't know too much other than that.

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But living between two cemeteries probably doesn't help.

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Director's log, it's 7.10 PM on Sunday, January 9.

280
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And Chez Belanger, the psychic medium,

281
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who will be doing a walk through the house, has just arrived.

282
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We'll start here and just let me know to get anything.

283
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I have an image of almost shadowy tentacles,

284
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like little tendrils of something.

285
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I don't know what it's connected to.

286
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But it's the only image that I have in my head right now.

287
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Just patterns of light and shadow.

288
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A fairly unsettling image, actually.

289
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I think there's a person.

290
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What's the person doing?

291
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I think I'm seeing from his perspective.

292
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Is this a living person or a dead person?

293
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I think this is something in the past.

294
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There's a pressure to it now, a sense,

295
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something oppressive to it.

296
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Now I'm no longer seeing the watcher from his or its

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perspective.

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It's out there.

299
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Now I feel like I'm the one being watched.

300
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Adam, what's your assessment of the family?

301
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Well, it doesn't match hysteria in the clinical sense.

302
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So hysteria we can roll out.

303
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With Paul, he at this time is of sound mind.

304
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Crystal, she's also of sound mind.

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She's telling the truth.

306
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She believes this to be real in her sense.

307
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We all know that belief systems are important.

308
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In this situation, as all other situations,

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dealing with the paranormal, the belief system of the family

310
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is that something is happening.

311
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There's something cooking.

312
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There's something here.

313
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OK, well, let's get ready for dead time.

314
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All right.

315
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So I'm going to leave this out for my team.

316
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We're going to do two things.

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You and I are going to go downstairs,

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and we're going to monitor our surveillance as my team

319
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attempts to hold a seance, but it's more like spirit

320
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communication.

321
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We're only trying to talk to whatever may or to be here.

322
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While they're doing that, one person

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will be alone upstairs investigating.

324
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We'll be able to hear and see most of it.

325
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All right, guys, we'll go ahead and commence dead time.

326
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Copy that.

327
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We are here to communicate to whatever entity

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that haunts this place and this family.

329
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You can choose to communicate with us

330
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or with Katrina who is upstairs.

331
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This room definitely has the feeling of being watched.

332
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So this is kind of an uncomfortable feeling, actually.

333
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Touch me on the shoulder or tug my hair.

334
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It is our understanding that Paul used this

335
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to try to communicate with whatever is here.

336
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Can you give us your name?

337
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Oh.

338
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J.

339
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Are you spelling anything special here?

340
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I keep hearing, like, taps up here, and I'm...

341
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Where were the tapping sounds coming from?

342
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It sounded like the hallway.

343
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If there is more than one of you, only one at a time,

344
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do you understand?

345
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That is affirmative.

346
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And...

347
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Wow.

348
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What was that?

349
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I heard, like, a little tap back here.

350
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I'm not sure if it was from downstairs.

351
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Do you realize that sometimes you are frightening the family?

352
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Yes.

353
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Oh, and clearly you don't care.

354
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No.

355
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Hey, guys, I'm going to come upstairs and monitor.

356
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Copy that.

357
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If there is anyone in this house,

358
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I'd really, really like to speak with you.

359
00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,040
Hey, Ray, you could play standing, sitting, lying.

360
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OK.

361
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Is Katrina, who's upstairs, is she sitting?

362
00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,040
Yes.

363
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All right, Josh, is that correct?

364
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Yes, it is.

365
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OK.

366
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This is my friend, Crystal.

367
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Do you know who she is?

368
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Yes.

369
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Are you purposely trying to scare her?

370
00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,800
Yes.

371
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To the male spirit, did you die here or nearby in this area?

372
00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:44,800
Yes.

373
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J?

374
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B.

375
00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,800
No, no, no, no, don't spell that out.

376
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That's just me.

377
00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,800
I think it just called you a jerk.

378
00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,800
Why don't we just go and get to the point?

379
00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,800
Crystal, do you want any of these things in the house?

380
00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:01,800
I need to get out of here.

381
00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,800
If you're going to continue to do these acts of stupidity,

382
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I promise you we will kick your ass.

383
00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:15,800
I promise you doing those things will bring us back.

384
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And I swear to God, you do not want us to come back.

385
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Get the f*** out.

386
00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,800
I think it just called you a jerk.

387
00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,800
If you're going to continue to do these acts of stupidity,

388
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I promise you doing those things will bring us back.

389
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And I swear to God, you do not want us to come back.

390
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Get the f*** out.

391
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That which was opened, I now close.

392
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That which I close, I now shatter.

393
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I would run if I were you.

394
00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:19,800
The only time I got a sense of active presence was when we did pull out the spirit board.

395
00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:25,800
There was the sense that there had been some things that were attracted specifically by that activity.

396
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That they were used to it.

397
00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,800
That they were excited by being communicated with through that method.

398
00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:36,800
Everything felt like it was evil or dangerous, mischievous, certainly.

399
00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,800
Katrina, you felt a little, you felt watched.

400
00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,800
Definitely a feeling of being watched, but what I was telling Josh while he was in tech,

401
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I almost kind of felt like I was in an observation room,

402
00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,800
but it didn't feel like a person or a spirit.

403
00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:52,800
I have experimented with blasting my brain with EMF.

404
00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,800
I've had the same experience.

405
00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:55,800
Oh, really?

406
00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,800
And for me, it felt like, it did not feel like a person.

407
00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:04,800
It felt like paranoia because you know you're being watched, but you don't know by what.

408
00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,800
And logically, it doesn't make sense.

409
00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,800
You just know you're being watched by something.

410
00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,800
I had several sensations, but nothing that I could pin to a thing.

411
00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:19,800
Kind of like electricity kind of running down my hands and the sensation on my scalp.

412
00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,800
I just think it's possible that maybe there is something,

413
00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,800
but there's also clearly something with electrical here.

414
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The spirit board.

415
00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:36,800
Yes.

416
00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,800
Some of the cases we've done in paranormal state that I personally believe were majorly haunted

417
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,800
started out with a spirit board.

418
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,800
She was saying it's basically opening a door or cracking the door open.

419
00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,800
Yeah, it didn't start out dramatically.

420
00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,800
It was just in playing around and something slowly got worse and worse.

421
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,800
So it's kind of like, you know, someone playing doctor.

422
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,800
Yeah, you can go and buy it at a toy store.

423
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,800
But in theory, if it works, it was to say when you open up that door, it doesn't go away.

424
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:00,800
Yeah.

425
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,800
It's best to remove the board and just say, you know what?

426
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,800
What does it matter to have this board in this house?

427
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,800
We put as much faith in doing it as we do into a board game, obviously.

428
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:12,800
So we'll get rid of it.

429
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,800
Now we go to another part, electromagnetic fields of frequency.

430
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,800
Back in the 60s or 70s, there was a scientist.

431
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,800
He wanted to know what were the effects if exposed on a person.

432
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:28,800
His findings were that people who were exposed to high amounts of EMF had paranormal experiences.

433
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,800
You can look at it two ways.

434
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:35,800
People think they're having paranormal experiences when really it's just a hallucination.

435
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:41,800
But there's also been times where high amounts of EMF were around when we documented actual paranormal experiences.

436
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,800
We can't judge right now if it's one or the other.

437
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:51,800
But the bottom line is we've found that there's a high amount of EMF in certain parts of your house.

438
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:57,800
Whether it's some sort of hallucination or it's energy for these spirits, if we can eliminate the EMF,

439
00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,800
I think you're going to see a change anyways.

440
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,800
There's paint that's reported to block EMF.

441
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:08,800
There's also some plants that you can probably just hang on there that will help absorb some of that EMF.

442
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,800
So we will have Michelle, this is to a cleansing, if you guys are cool with it.

443
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Yeah.

444
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,800
And you have our email and phone number at the office.

445
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:18,800
Sure.

446
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:19,800
We'll follow up with you.

447
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,800
You know, we're only about two and a half hours away.

448
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So if anything major happens, you can give us a call or email us.

449
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,800
Bottom line is you have help.

450
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Only pleasant dreams, no watchers in the night, nothing that is unwelcome.

451
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I seal this space so no harm may enter this home.

452
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And only good is welcome.